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John Catterson (@jfcatto) and Pete Whiting (@mr_van_w) are two Australian Flipped Educators. Together they talk education, pedagogy and current practice. Find more of Pete and John: Website - www.catfisheducation.com YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/MrCattersonScience YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/PWhiting
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Feb 15, 2018

Pete (@mr_van_w) explores some of the many problems with the implementation of the Year 1 Phonics test of made up words in a sometimes tricky language to negotiate.

John (@jfcatto) dips his toe into some of the many ways to differentiate a mixed ability classroom.

Tips to teachers: Automate, choose jobs wisely and accept done is done.    

 

Pete: 'Plood, pove, moul': teachers push back against year 1 phonics test - Pallavi Singhal

http://www.smh.com.au/national/plood-pove-moul-teachers-push-back-against-year-1-phonics-test-20180212-p4z02l.html

 

Private school considers banning works of Shakespeare

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/38905133/wa-private-school-considers-banning-works-of-shakespeare/ 

 

John: A Starter Kit for Differentiated Instruction 

https://www.cultofpedagogy.com/starter-kit-differentiated-instruction/ 

 

"Work Smarter Not Harder" - Crystal Caton

https://educatingthedigitallearner.com/2018/02/08/strategies-to-work-smarter-not-harder/ 

 

Feb 8, 2018

Pete (@mr_van_w) is bemused by continued calls for banning mobile phones in classroom. Now in Australia.  Then at an anonymous strawman story of a progressive teacher who lost his way. 

John (@jfcatto) introduces an overarching framework that allows teaching professionals to identify when to apply different learning strategies for different students. 

 

Pete: Banning mobile phones in classrooms takes education back in time, experts say - Ashleigh Raper and Brooke Wiley

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-05/debate-on-mobile-phones-in-the-classroom/9397898

The lure of 21st century skills - (Anonymous via Greg Ashman) 

https://gregashman.wordpress.com/2018/02/05/the-lure-of-21st-century-skills/

John: Learning strategies: a synthesis and conceptual model - John Hattie and Gregory Montegue

https://www.nature.com/articles/npjscilearn201613.pdf

How Do You Know When a Teaching Strategy Is Most Effective? John Hattie Has And Idea - Katrina Schwartz 

https://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/2017/06/14/how-do-you-know-when-a-teaching-strategy-is-most-effective-john-hattie-has-an-idea/ 

Feb 1, 2018

This week Pete (@mr_van_w) manages to keep his cool over a website published by #hisABC that seems to serve no purpose other than to shame/enrage parents in both the public and private sector of education. 

John (@jfcatto) highlights the lack of correlation between college achievement and fame and fortune. 

 

Pete: You decide: Should you send your kids to a public or private school? - Cristen Tilley, Ben Spraggon, Nathan Hoad 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-31/public-vs-private-school-you-decide/8380980 

 

John: Why valedictorians rarely become rich and famous - and the average millionaire's college GPA was 2.9 - Shana Lebowitz

https://amp.businessinsider.com/why-high-school-valedictorians-dont-become-really-successful-2017-5 

 

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Jan 25, 2018

In this episode of Teachers Talking Teaching - @jfcatto is on holiday and enjoying a country music festival. 

He's replaced by sometimes podcaster and always rad dude @Smedboule.

He and @mr_van_w go through all of the things that give them hope in the new teaching year while throwing some side shade at John because ... well why not.

Jan 18, 2018

At a time when teachers are preparing to go back to school John (@jfcatto) introduces eight questions for teachers to consider to ensure students are engaged and not just compliant.

Then (@mr_van_w) spends half a podcast discussing a discussion he heard on another podcast. #secondhander

Spolier/Disclaimer/Edit: Finally, John awkwardly defends an offhand comment he made disparaging a beloved educelebrity.

 

John: How to Ensure Students Are Actively Engaged and Not Just Compliant - Katrina Schwartz

https://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/2016/12/09/how-to-ensure-students-are-actively-engaged-and-not-just-compliant/

 

Pete: The EduChange Podcast: John Hattie - Luca Parry *sp

https://podtail.com/podcast/the-educhange-podcast/john-hattie/

 

Jan 11, 2018

Pete (@mr_van_w) highlights another (un)forseen problem with NAPLAN and the NSW Governments new HSC literacy benchmark.

John (@jfcatto) uses an article as an excuse to present his opinion on mobile phones in schools. 

 

Articles:
Pete: NAPLAN: 87 per cent of NSW Indigenous students need to resit tests - Pallavi Singhal

http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/naplan-87-per-cent-of-nsw-indigenous-students-need-to-resit-tests-20171211-h02ddu.html 

John: The idea of banning mobiles mobiles in schools is as daft as Canute attempting to hold back the tide - Bernard Trafford (@bernadtrafford)

https://www.tes.com/news/school-news/breaking-views/idea-banning-mobiles-schools-daft-canute-attempting-hold-back-tide 

Jan 4, 2018

After a couple of weeks break. John (@jfcatto) goes on a deep dive into a review of the heavy theory of cognitive load.

Pete (@mr_van_w) flies a flag for little nerds and encourages teachers to listen without judging.  

 

Articles:

John: Cognitive Load Theory: Research That Teachers Really Need to Understand - Centre for Education Statistics and Evaluation

https://www.cese.nsw.gov.au//images/stories/PDF/cognitive_load_theory_report_AA1.pdf

 

Pete: Song of Joy- Teaching Students to Love What They Love - Doug Robertson (@theweirdteacher)

https://hestheweirdteacher.blogspot.com.au/2017/12/song-of-joy-teaching-students-to-love.html 

Dec 7, 2017

This week Pete (@mr_van_w) and John (@jfcatto) have gone on a study tour to Melbourne. 

Today we visited Templestowe College (https://tc.vic.edu.au/) who under the guidance of the Principal Peter Hutton (@Tempcol) are doing amazing and radical things in education.

We are joined on the podcast by colleagues Matt Smedley (@smedboule) and Tom Riley. 

We discuss teaching, Templestowe and how this translates to our our own teaching environment in rural NSW.  

Nov 30, 2017

This week Pete (@mr_van_w) hate-reads a blog post in which traditionalist takes psychological research out of context to prove a point and uses metaphors that don't make any sense. 

John (@jfcatto) shares a fantastic resource from the NSW Department of Education (DEC) and Evidence for Learning. After questioning what the C in DEC might stand for goes through one of their research summaries on Mastery Learning, which may make the "slight" improvement of 150% teaching efficiency. 

 

Pete: Novices use thinking skills. Experts use knowledge. - Adrian Cotterell 

http://adriancotterell.com/index.php/2017/10/09/novices-use-thinking-skills-experts-use-knowledge/ 

 

John: Mastery Learning - Evidence for Learning

http://www.evidenceforlearning.org.au/toolkit/mastery-learning/ 

Nov 23, 2017

In this episode, Pete (@mr_van_w) kick off at yet another downfall in the implementation of NAPLAN and the failings of useful data at a local level.

John (@jfcatto) doesn't mind the concept of Teach for America/Australia but thinks it sound a bit like a cult of poor implementation.

Pete then backs up with an article by friend of the show Steve Griffiths (@sciencesteveg) about research into pre-questioning enhancing retention of content in flipped videos. 

Next week: The premiere of John and Pete's new podcast where they discuss what Dwayne "the Rock" Johnson might talk about if he had a podcast 

 

 

Pete: 

NAPLAN has done little to improve student outcomes - Radhika Goror 

https://theconversation.com/naplan-has-done-little-to-improve-student-outcomes-86049 

 

John:

I Quit Teach for America - Olivia Bloomfield

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2013/09/i-quit-teach-for-america/279724/ 

 

Pete: 

Doe Pre-questioning Improve Learning - Steve Griffiths

http://flglobal.org/does-pre-questioning-improve-learning/ 

Nov 16, 2017

Pete (@mr_van_w) and John (@jfcatto) love The Rock and facial hair.

Finally, John probes into the disconnect between education research and classroom practitioners and perhaps the need for education communicators. 

Then, Pete talks about how new teachers should be built and supported rather judged and weeded out.  

 

John: Why don't teachers use education research in teaching? - Paul Maclellan

https://eic.rsc.org/analysis/why-dont-teachers-use-education-research-in-teaching/2010170.article 

 

BTW: Flipped Learning is pretty much a waste of time

https://www.tes.com/news/school-news/breaking-news/exclusive-flipped-learning-leads-small-progress

 

Pete: Why Jessica quit teaching: She'd given her heart and soul to those kids but the SLT didn't think it was enough - Thomas Rogers

https://www.tes.com/news/school-news/breaking-views/why-jessica-quit-teaching-shed-given-her-heart-and-soul-those-kids 

Nov 9, 2017

John (@jfcatto) looks at some practical tips to share with your students for engaging in "targeted study" rather than busy work. 

Pete (@mr_van_w) tells us about a new show coming to PBS next year that teaches preschoolers meta-cognition and computational thinking.

 

John: "How do I study?" Deliberate Practice in Exam Revision - Melinda Roberts

https://xavier.vic.edu.au/xavier/content/%E2%80%9Chow-do-i-study%E2%80%9D-deliberate-practice-exam-revision 

 

Pet: PBS Show Will Teach Preschoolers to Think Like a Computer - Jenny Abamu

https://www.edsurge.com/news/2017-07-03-new-pbs-show-will-teach-preschoolers-how-to-think-like-computers  

Nov 2, 2017

John (@jfcatto) looks at the difference between good PBL and sending kids off to look stuff up on the internet. Pete (@mr_van_w) how teaching metacognition can help students learn and then goes on an unrelated rant.  

 

John: Why every teacher should look into PBL - Alice Leung (@aliceleung)

https://aliceleung.net/2017/01/26/why-every-teacher-should-look-into-project-based-learning/amp/ 

 

Pete: The Role of Metacognition in Learning and Achievement - Chris Fadel and others

https://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/2016/08/10/the-role-of-metacognition-in-learning-and-achievement/ 

 

Also if You're Keen: Melbourne Declaration on Educational Goals for Young Australians

http://www.curriculum.edu.au/verve/_resources/National_Declaration_on_the_Educational_Goals_for_Young_Australians.pdf 

 

Oct 31, 2017

Pete (@mr_van_w) asks six (well. five really) questions principals ask before getting on board with new EdTech. John (@jfcatto) brings in some tips for doing better PBL.

 

Pete: Six Things Principals Are Thinking When They Get Pitched Edtech - Sara Shenken-rich  

https://www.edsurge.com/news/2017-10-20-six-things-principals-are-thinking-when-they-get-pitched-edtech https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/oct/17/ellen-van-neerven-indigenous-poet-abused-hsc-english-students

 

John: How to Make Sure That Project-based Learning is Applied Well in Schools - Thom Markham (@thommarkham)

https://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/2015/12/02/how-to-make-sure-that-project-based-learning-is-applied-well-in-schools/  

 

Oct 20, 2017

After a huge day of flipping radness at Innaburra School, Pete (@mr_van_w) and John (@jfcatto) recap the day and some of the take homes. 

 

 

Oct 19, 2017

Pete (@mr_van_w) get disappointed about the racist backlash after the HSC English exam. John (@jfcatto) asks us to look beyond the bare necessaties for 1:1 tech in the classroom. Pete then recounts a positive twitter chat he had about GBL and Gamification. Finally, he warns against teacher nostalgia idolising the students of past.

 

Pete: Indigenous poet Ellen van Neerven abused by year 12 English students - Michael McGowan

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/oct/17/ellen-van-neerven-indigenous-poet-abused-hsc-english-students

 

John: Some blog post that he claims exists but has no proof of. 

 

Pete: The Danger of Teacher Nostalgia - Jennifer Gonzalez 

https://www.cultofpedagogy.com/teacher-nostalgia/

Oct 12, 2017

This week, Pete (@mr_van_w) talks about a Sydney school who has found that teaching philosophy increases primary students ability to verbalise higher order thinking. (Correction: Malabar is actually only "Shire-adjacent" #NotMyShire)  

 

"Comrade" John (@jfcatto) exposes "GOP" Pete's ulterior motive in  teaching student to code. 

 

Pete: Philosophy lesson lead to better behavior and marks in Sydney school - Pallavi Singhal

http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/philosophy-lessons-lead-to-better-behaviour-and-marks-in-sydney-school-20171005-gyusfj.html 

 

John: Tech's push to teach coding isn't about kid's success - it's about cutting wages - Comrade Ben Tarnoff

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/21/coding-education-teaching-silicon-valley-wages 

Sep 21, 2017

John (@jfcatto) looks at some causes and sign of burnout and a few tips for self-care. 

Pete (@mr_van_w) fuels a controlled rage at non-educators dictating what is occurs in schools. In particular influencing curriculum and increase in standardised testing.  

 

John: How To Recognize Burnout Before You're Burned Out - Kenneth R. Rosen

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/05/smarter-living/workplace-burnout-symptoms.htmlhttp://www.corelearn.com/files/Archer/Seating_Arrangements.pdf 

 

Pete: WHOSE SCIENCE? Critics say proposed NM science standards omit evolution. climate change - Olivier Uyttebrouck

https://www.abqjournal.com/1064653/whose-science-excerpt-critics-say-proposed-nm-science-standards-omit-evolution-climate-change.html 

 

Sep 21, 2017

John (@jfcatto) looks at some causes and sign of burnout and a few tips for self-care. 

Pete (@mr_van_w) fuels a controlled rage at non-educators dictating what is occurs in schools. In particular influencing curriculum and increase in standardised testing.  

 

John: How To Recognize Burnout Before You're Burned Out - Kenneth R. Rosen

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/05/smarter-living/workplace-burnout-symptoms.htmlhttp://www.corelearn.com/files/Archer/Seating_Arrangements.pdf 

 

Pete: WHOSE SCIENCE? Critics say proposed NM science standards omit evolution. climate change - Olivier Uyttebrouck

https://www.abqjournal.com/1064653/whose-science-excerpt-critics-say-proposed-nm-science-standards-omit-evolution-climate-change.html 

 

Sep 14, 2017

John (@jfcatto) brings in a meta-study of the relationship between seating arrangements and "on task" activity and links to how we can use these seating arrangements to inform practice in the classroom. 

Pete (@mr_van_w) ponders the NSW government plan to put business professionals in charges of the business of running a school. Taking the load off school principals and allowing them to do what they do best, educational leadership.    

 

 

John: Seating arrangements that promote positive academic and behavioural outcomes: a review of empirical research - Rachel Wannarka and Cathy Ruhl 

http://www.corelearn.com/files/Archer/Seating_Arrangements.pdf 

 

Pete: $50 million shakeup so principals can spend more time on education - Bruce McDougall

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/50-million-shakeup-so-principals-can-spend-more-time-on-education/news-story/4f65b97ce00118057cbc7ca009c18253 

 

Sep 11, 2017

Pre-service teacher and listener Sean (@readingpixels) sent us an email asking a few really good questions. Pete (@mr_van_w) and John (@jfcatto) thought would get in friend-of-the-show Matt (@smedboule) to discuss.

Sep 7, 2017

John (@jfcatto) looks at some things that you should and shouldn't do to gifted students in your general classroom. Some he and Pete agree with and some, not so much.  

Pete (@mr_van_w) asks the question "What is the moral obligation of a school, as a public institution, to have an opinion on current issues? 

 

John: Teaching Gifted Students in General Ed Classrooms - Dr Elissa Brown

https://www.edutopia.org/blog/gifted-students-general-ed-classrooms-elissa-brown 

 

Pete: Abbott swipes school on gay marriage - AAP

http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/abbott-swipes-school-on-gay-marriage/news-story/8a8b1c5d3f1f222ce05fca970c67c3ca 

 

Sep 2, 2017

Pete (@mr_van_w) presents a listicle/infographic addressing ways of fostering a Growth Mindset in the classroom.

John (@jfcatto) discusses how the LATE model can be used to frame conversations when students turn to you for help with welfare issues.

 

John: What kids *really* want from us when they ask for help... - Dan Haesler (Donna Cross (Michael Tunnecliffe))

https://danhaesler.com/2016/02/28/what-kids-really-want-from-us-when-they-ask-for-help/ 

 

Pete: Foster a Growth Mindset in Your Class Using These Strategies - Marcus Guido 

http://www.educatorstechnology.com/2017/08/foster-growth-mindset-in-your-class.html 

 

 

Sep 2, 2017

Pete (@mr_van_w) presents a listicle/infographic addressing ways of fostering a Growth Mindset in the classroom.

John (@jfcatto) discusses how the LATE model can be used to frame conversations when students turn to you for help with welfare issues.

 

John: What kids *really* want from us when they ask for help... - Dan Haesler (Donna Cross (Michael Tunnecliffe))

https://danhaesler.com/2016/02/28/what-kids-really-want-from-us-when-they-ask-for-help/ 

 

Pete: Foster a Growth Mindset in Your Class Using These Strategies - Marcus Guido 

http://www.educatorstechnology.com/2017/08/foster-growth-mindset-in-your-class.html 

 

 

Aug 24, 2017

Pete (@mr_van_w) asks the question "Who is responsible for students success/failure?" and the problem of competition being of detriment to collaboration. Teachers now also feel social pressure for their students to perform.

John continues to draw from the work of @cultofpedagogy and explores some different ways to engage all students in meaningful class discussions.

 

John:

The Big List of Class Discussion Strategies - Jennifer Gonzalez

https://www.cultofpedagogy.com/speaking-listening-techniques/ 

 

Pete: 

'On GCSE results day, teachers now need the top marks as much as the pupils do' - Nikki Cunningham-Smith

https://www.tes.com/news/school-news/breaking-views/gcse-results-day-teachers-now-need-top-marks-much-pupils-do 

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