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John Catterson (@jfcatto) and Pete Whiting (@mr_van_w) are two Australian Flipped Educators. Together they talk education, pedagogy and current practice. Find more of Pete and John: Website - www.catfisheducation.com YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/MrCattersonScience YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/PWhiting
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Mar 19, 2020

As COVID-19 continues to spread uncontrolled around the world,  Pete (@mr_van_w) and John (@jfcatto) return to the bubble, soon to be their own private bubbles. They discuss the imminent cessation of face-to-face teaching and the move to an online learning environment.

 

Pete: Mr Corona/Covid-19 plea to Admin everywhere - Pete Whiting (@mr_van_w) 

https://mrvanw.com/2020/03/15/my-corona-covid-19-plea-to-admin-everywhere/

John: Online Learning in the Time of a Pandemic: What it is, What It Isn't - Joel Speranza (@JoelBSperanza) 

https://joelsperanza.com/uncategorized/online-learning-in-the-time-of-a-pandemic-what-it-is-what-it-isnt/

 

Awkward PSA chats with the Education Minister

https://education.nsw.gov.au/news/latest-news/social-distancing-in-action

 

Mar 16, 2020

This week John (@jfcatto) returns to his lane and focuses on effecting change in the classroom through different directed questioning techniques. Then, Pete (@mr_van_w) considers the challenge of teachers' teaching out of their field of expertise.

John: No hands up: Rethinking questioning techniques - Daniel Beech (@MrDBeech)  

https://edu.rsc.org/ideas/10-effective-questioning-techniques/4011025.article

Pete: “From Weakness to Strength: Turning the challenge of ‘out of field’ teaching into a team that thrives” by Yasodai Selvakumaran. 

 

Other stuff:

Do We Really Need Baby Boomers? - CollegeHumo[u]r

https://youtu.be/S195dc3-8D8

 

"Too strong for you Karen"  

https://youtu.be/EsaqmdQIq_0 

Feb 26, 2020

This week Pete (@mr_van_w) laments the extra workload caused by menial tasks that have no benefit to the teacher or the students but are mandated within schools or systems. New contributor Shawtima (@ShawtimaSmiles) invites us to join her on her quest to improving her workflow and taking some of the power back. John (@jfcatto) comments on a report written by an idiot, who somehow managed to get a job as chair of a committee, that doesn't even garner support from the members of the committee.

Also - who knew John would know what Dementors are?

 

Pete: The Pedagogical Dementors - Sarah Barker

https://thestableoyster.wordpress.com/2019/12/05/the-pedagogical-dementors/

It Starts as an Annotated Seating Plan - Sarah Barker

https://thestableoyster.wordpress.com/2020/02/12/it-starts-as-an-annotated-seating-plan/

John: Report calls for school inspectors to monitor teachers - Jordan Baker

https://www.smh.com.au/national/report-calls-for-school-inspectors-to-monitor-teachers-20200218-p541z6.html

 

Taika Waititi - Give Nothing To Racism

https://youtu.be/g9n_UPyVR5s 

 

Thanks so much Shawtima, you're a druid of the highest order, lady of all crocheted crustaceans, and the shiniest shiny there is!

 

Contact us:

catfisheducation@gmail.com

www.catfish.education

www.mrvanw.com  

Feb 16, 2020

This week John (@jfcatto) wades through the Grattan Institute's mammoth report recommending the implementation of Instructional Specialists and Master Teachers. 

Pete (@mr_van_w) highlights the idea of Assessment Literacy for teachers and to question what inferences and conclusions can be made from assessments.  

 

John: Top teachers: sharing expertise to Improve teaching - Peter Goss and Julie Sonnemann

https://grattan.edu.au/report/top-teachers/

 

Pete: Needed: A Dose of Assessment Literacy - W James Popham

http://www.ascd.org/publications/educational-leadership/mar06/vol63/num06/Needed@-A-Dose-of-Assessment-Literacy.aspx 

Feb 10, 2020

This week Pete (@mr_van_w) ponders an interview from one of our our stable mates ERRR that makes him question how progressive is too progressive.  John (@jfcatto) then discusses something close to his heart; teacher accreditation at the higher levels of Highly Accomplished Teachers (HAT) and Lead Teachers (LT). 

 

Pete:  Education Research Reading Room #038: Peter Gray on the Freedom to Learn - Ollie Lovell 

https://www.ollielovell.com/errr/petergray/

 

John: Incentivising Quality: It will take more than just carrots to keep teachers in the classroom - Melanie Ralph

https://lustreeducation.wordpress.com/2020/01/15/incentivising-quality-it-will-take-more-than-carrots-to-keep-teachers-in-classrooms/

Feb 10, 2020

This week Pete (@mr_van_w) ponders an interview from one of our our stable mates ERRR that makes him question how progressive is too progressive.  John (@jfcatto) then discusses something close to his heart; teacher accreditation at the higher levels of Highly Accomplished Teachers (HAT) and Lead Teachers (LT). 

 

Pete:  Education Research Reading Room #038: Peter Gray on the Freedom to Learn - Ollie Lovell 

https://www.ollielovell.com/errr/petergray/

 

John: Incentivising Quality: It will take more than just carrots to keep teachers in the classroom - Melanie Ralph

https://lustreeducation.wordpress.com/2020/01/15/incentivising-quality-it-will-take-more-than-carrots-to-keep-teachers-in-classrooms/

Feb 3, 2020

Pete (@mr_van_w) and John (@jfcatto) return to the 2020 year with a rambling recap of their holidays. Pete identifies some of the obligatory media narratives that need to be trotted out at the start of another school year. John regales us with a parable illustrating the some of the nuances between Direct Instruction and Discovery Learning that are not taken into account by the quantitative studies

Articles:

Pete:  I haven't even started teaching yet, but it's already cost me $700 - and I'm not alone - Ellen Wengert

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-24/starting-costs-graduate-teachers-in-the-classroom/11872676

What can parents do to help their child's teacher? A 'recovering' teacher's term one wishlist - Gabby Stroud

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-29/what-can-parents-do-to-help-their-childs-teacher/11902654

John: Discovery Learning Experiments - Georgios Zonnios

https://georgios.blog/discovery-learning-experiments/

Nov 28, 2019

In another episode of the occasional podcast Teachers Talking Teaching John (@jfcatto) contemplates the the way in which schools and society frame resilience to children, particularly the ones that need it most. Pete (@mr_van_w) then discusses the equity of the HSC and subsequent university admission system. 

 

John: Rethinking 'resilience' and 'grit' - Alissa Quart

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2019/11/09/opinion/rethinking-resilience-grit/

Pete: In defence of the HSC - Blaise Joseph

https://www.cis.org.au/commentary/articles/in-defence-of-the-hsc/

The Sins of the Father - Pran Patel

https://theteacherist.com/2019/11/10/the-sins-of-the-father/

 

Oct 24, 2019

Another haphazard release finds Pete (@mr_van_w) just returned from ResCon in Brisbane where he was inspired by a presentation to go back to the work of John Dewey. John (@jfcatto) then is impressed by a innovative school but worried about how the motivations affect future implementation. 

Pete: John Dewey on How to Find Your Calling, the Key to a Fulfilling Vocation, and Why Diverse Interests Are Essential for Excellence in Any Field - Maria Popova 

https://www.brainpickings.org/2015/10/20/john-dewey-democracy-and-education-calling/

 

John: Kelvinside Academy open Nuvu Innovation School - Jody Harrison (@jodeharrisonHT)  

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17961074.kelvinside-academy-opens-nuvu-innovation-school/

Sep 12, 2019

In a triumphant return-from-hiatus episode John (@jfcatto) and Pete (@mr_van_w) make history by bringing so such synergy to the table that they that they have read the same article.

Students don't like the brain-sweats because it hurts their head. Unfortunately, learning is hard.

 

Articles: 

Pete: Study shows students in 'active learning' classrooms learn more than they think - Peter Reuell

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/09/study-shows-that-students-learn-more-when-taking-part-in-classrooms-that-employ-active-learning-strategies/

 

John: Study shows students in 'active learning' classrooms learn more than they think - Peter Reuell 

https://phys.org/news/2019-09-students-classrooms.html

 

Aug 8, 2019

This week Pete (@mr_van_w) and John (@jfcatto) are back and a bit more upbeat. Pete did a viva voce and really dug it. 

John discusses Personalised Learning and some peoples worries about privacy of third party companies from Silicon Valley.

Pete raises questions of the conduct of student evaluations of teaching, how much credence we put in student opinions and how those opinions can be implicitly biased. 

 

Articles:

John: The Messy Reality of Personalized Learning - E. Tammy Kim

https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/the-messy-reality-of-personalized-learning

 

Pete: Students evaluation of teaching are not only unreliable, they are significantly biased against female instructors - Anne Boring, Kelly Ottoboni and Phillip B. Stark

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/impactofsocialsciences/2016/02/04/student-evaluations-of-teaching-gender-bias/

 

On Shame and 'Daring Classrooms': We Need to Fix Systems, Not Kids - Christina Torres

https://blogs.edweek.org/teachers/intersection-culture-and-race-in-education/2019/08/on-shame-and-daring-classrooms-we-need-to-fix-systems-not-kids.html

 

Jul 30, 2019

This is just a quick little episode as a welcome to those new to the profession. It's the best job in the world but it's challenging.

Glad to have you on board.

Stay shiny Pony Boy!

Jul 26, 2019

Pete (@mr_van_w) and John (@jfcatto) have finally made Episode 100. Crack out a bottle of champagne and lets' celebrate... actually scrap that this one is a super downer. Listener discretion is advised.

Pete, a proud Kamilaroi man, gets super angry and about a teacher gamifying their classroom using the framework of colonialism.

John then brightens the day with new study from the OECD that finds that Australian teachers are have higher workload and more administration.     

 

Pete:

Gamifying settler colonialism - Benjamin Doxtdador (@doxtdadorb) 

https://www.longviewoneducation.org/gamifying-settler-colonialism/

John: 

Australian teachers have higher workloads, fewer resources: OECD report - EducationHQ News  

https://au.educationhq.com/news/60602/australian-teachers-have-higher-workloads-fewer-resources-oecd-report/

 

 

The Herd ft. L-FRESH the LION - 77% (live for Like A Version)

 

https://youtu.be/StORD4EgvWY 

Jul 1, 2019

This week/fortnight/month Pete (@mr_van_w) and John (@jfcatto) barely manage to get an episode out with John on the editing decks. He's pretty rubbish.

John ruminates on a listener comment and laments the perceived goal of edupreneurs of aiming bigger and not wasting their life in the classroom. 

Pete regales us with the link between teaching and magic and his admiration for Penn and Teller. Romance, precision and generalisation. 

Then John finishes up with a teacher who has put together a African-american book list so that little black boys and girls can read abut themselves. 

 

Articles:

John: Breaking Good: Ex-Chemistry teacher becomes a billionaire - Venus Feng

https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/breaking-good-ex-chemistry-teacher-becomes-a-billionaire-20190613-p51x5t.html

 

Pete: Teaching: Just Like Performing Magic - Jessica Lahey

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/01/what-classrooms-can-learn-from-magic/425100/ 

 

John: Black Kids Like Reading About Themselves - Dwayne Reed (@TeachMrReed)

https://medium.com/@dwaynepreed_60537/kids-like-reading-about-themselves-c6b75c78ef2b

 

 

 

Jun 13, 2019

This week Pete (@mr_van_w) and John (@jfcatto) grapple with the intersection of ideology and economic sense when it comes to www.teacherpayteachers.com. Then John highlights the staggeringly large number of people that it takes to educate a child from K-12. 

 

Pete: Teachers are making millions selling their lesson plans online - Carolyn Thompson

https://www.businessinsider.com/teachers-making-millions-online-lesson-plans-2017-4

 

John: The big picture: How many people influence a student's life - Kim Marshall

https://www.kappanonline.org/marshall-how-many-people-influence-student-life/

 

www.aeon.net.au

 

Jun 12, 2019

In this mini episode, Pete (@mr_van_w) continues his homework with Dave Burgess' Teach Like a Pirate.

We're on the third section RRRRR.

R is for Rapport.

Pete also wrote about this on his blog, you should check it out - he uses some sweet memes.

https://mrvanw.com/2019/06/11/rapport-with-a-reluctant-audience-a-teach-like-a-pirate-read-along/

or simply:
Https://mrvanw.com 

Jun 6, 2019

Pete (@mr_van_w) asks when is it appropriate to start teaching students about sexuality and in particular non-cis/binary/fluid sexuality. He also brought a good news story about an inspiring Indigenous principal. John (@jfcatto) then highlight the divide between research and practice in education and that the way to being a good teacher is by striving to be a better teacher.   

 

Pete: Can teachers be trusted to teach primary school pupils about LGBT relationships - Joe Baron 

https://joethebaron21.blogspot.com/2019/05/can-teachers-be-trusted-to-teach.html

At school, Nicole's classmates didn't talk to her, now she's an inspiring principal - Helen Pitt

https://www.smh.com.au/national/at-school-nicole-s-classmates-didn-t-talk-to-her-now-she-s-an-inspiring-principal-20190523-p51qew.html

 

John: Teaching not a research-based profession - Dylan William

https://www.tes.com/news/dylan-wiliam-teaching-not-research-based-profession

 

AEON

http://www.aeon.net.au/

 

Vanilla Australian Observational Comedy:

Carl Barron https://youtu.be/wooAsMxJGy0 

Third drawer from the Top - Jimoen https://youtu.be/Jqe4_MOHB3o 

May 30, 2019

In another busy week Pete (@mr_van_w) record his own podcast in preparation for not getting together to record. Then due to a last minute Maths assessment task, he is off class and manages to track down John (@jfcatto) to talk about Singapore moving to get rid of marks and ranks.

 

Pete: 50 Years of Children Drawing Sciencetists - Youki Terada 

https://www.edutopia.org/article/50-years-children-drawing-scientists

 

John: Why The Worlds Best School System Is Getting Rid of Grades  -Bonnie Rivas Ras 

https://www.goodnet.org/articles/worlds-best-school-system-getting-rid-grades

May 23, 2019

This week John (@jfcatto) crosses the schism and discusses when a traditional classroom setting may be a positive experience for students and attempts to delve into some of the considerations in implementation beyond the trad/prog dichotomy.

Pete (@mr_van_w) continues with his Dave Burgess read along. This week the I in PIRATE, Immersion.

 

 

John: Good schools help children behave - Tom Bennett @tombennett71

https://behaviourguru.blogspot.com/2019/05/good-schools-help-children-behave.html

 

Pete: Immersion: Undividing my attention - A Teach Like a Pirate readalong - Mr Van W

https://mrvanw.com/2019/05/13/immersion-undividing-my-attention-a-teach-like-a-pirate-read-along/

May 10, 2019

Pete started reading a book by Dave Burgess that you may have heard of - Teach Like a Pirate. This is his read-along making sure he does his homework. This edition of his read-along we're talking about passion, that's right, P for Passion and P for Pirate. Pete loves an acronym. Originally Pete thought this book wasn't serious enough. He was wrong, it's very cool and he's getting a lot from it straight away.

John found some questions to help us both become more reflective teachers. They're good. Then John made Pete feel bad, but Pete edits the podcast so he just cut it out and added more of him being a fool in.

Come talk to us on the internet at @mr_van_w and @Jfcatto

Pete:

https://mrvanw.com/2019/05/06/finding-my-passion-again-a-teach-like-a-pirate-read-along/

John:

https://www.wabisabilearning.com/blog/reflective-questions-teachers

 

May 3, 2019

SPOILERS!

While running the mic for testing John (@jfcatto) had some hot takes on Game of Thrones Season 8 Episode 3. So we kept it for you.

Enjoy this out take.

May 2, 2019

Pete and John return feeling not-so refreshed after the break, then open with some somewhat disputable Tips to Teachers. 

Pete then looks at some of the ways we as teachers build a focus on self-improvement of our students, through allowing multiple test takes. Without falling into the trap of students outsmarting us and falsely inflating their marks. 

John tries to find the middle ground when it comes to differentiation. Trying to find something that supports all learners in the class, without labelling students or burdening teachers with an unsustainable workload. 

 

 

Pete: Allowing Test Retakes - Without Getting Gamed - Stephen Merrill @smerrill777

https://www.edutopia.org/article/allowing-test-retakes-without-getting-gamed

 

John: All aboard the magical mystery bus: keeping them on the bus - Jotter Pad: A Teacher's Notes

https://jotterpadteachersnotes.blogspot.com/2019/04/all-aboard-magical-mystery-tour-keeping.html

 

Apr 30, 2019

SPOILERS!

While running the mic for testing John (@jfcatto) had some hot takes on Game of Thrones Season 8 Episode 3. So we kept it for you.

Enjoy this out take.

Apr 4, 2019

Pete concedes that Direct and Explicit pedagogy has a place in education. #anotherstinginyourbow #whynotboth

John looks at some of the factor to consider when getting students to take notes in class. #itsalittlemorecomplicated

 

Pete: In defence of inquiry based pedagogies - Robert Stevens

https://education.nsw.gov.au/teaching-and-learning/professional-learning/scan/past-issues/vol-38,-2019/in-defence-of-inquiry-based-pedagogies

 

John: Factors of Effective Note Taking: Application of Cognitive Load Theory - Carolina Kuepper-Tetzel 

http://www.learningscientists.org/blog/2018/9/13-1

 

Mar 28, 2019

Pete (mr_van_w) discusses Scientism, Scepticism with a K also with a K, tells us that sometimes proper Science doesn't matter in Education Research. Stuff your double blind RCTs are just evidence.

John (@jfcatto) then regales us with a Puff Listicle to make us feel better about our life choices. #Experienceisstillexperience. 

 

 

Pete: The problem with using scientific evidence in education (why teachers should stop trying to be more like doctors) - Lucinda McKnight and Andy Morgan

https://www.aare.edu.au/blog/?p=3874

 

John: Should I Be A Teacher? Here Are 24 Awe-Inspiring Reasons To Consider It - Dave Saba

https://www.teachersoftomorrow.org/blog/insights/should-i-be-a-teacher

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